Many redundant software updaters

Asked by David G. Pickett

I like to do my ubuntu weekly maintenance on Friday. I run "flatpak update -y" and "snap refresh" before waking up the old "Software Updater" and then go to "Software" tab "Updates".

Today flatpak updated Chrome and then, as usual, Software Updater downloaded and updated Chrome.

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Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said :
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For diagnostic purposes, what output do you receive for the following commands (to be executed in a terminal window):

uname -a
lsb_release -crid
snap list
flatpak list
dpkg -l | grep -i ' chrom'

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David G. Pickett (dgpickett) said :
#2

 Do I need to wait for the next chrome update?  Here is what it says now:

uname -aLinux dgp-p6803w 6.5.0-26-generic #26~22.04.1-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Tue Mar 12 10:22:43 UTC 2 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linuxlsb_release -cridDistributor ID: UbuntuDescription:    Ubuntu 22.04.4 LTSRelease:        22.04Codename:       jammysnap listName                            Version                     Rev    Tracking         Publisher        Notesacrordrdc                       2021.007.20091              62     latest/stable    mmtrt            -bare                            1.0                         5      latest/stable    canonical✓       basecanonical-livepatch             10.8.1                      264    latest/stable    canonical✓       -chromium-ffmpeg                 0.1                         37     latest/stable    canonical✓       -core                            16-2.61.2                   16928  latest/stable    canonical✓       corecore18                          20231027                    2812   latest/stable    canonical✓       basecore20                          20240111                    2182   latest/stable    canonical✓       basecore22                          20240111                    1122   latest/stable    canonical✓       basecurl                            8.1.2                       1754   latest/stable    woutervb         -firefox                         124.0.1-1                   4033   latest/stable/…  mozilla✓         -gnome-3-28-1804                 3.28.0-19-g98f9e67.98f9e67  198    latest/stable    canonical✓       -gnome-3-38-2004                 0+git.efb213a               143    latest/stable/…  canonical✓       -gnome-42-2204                   0+git.510a601               172    latest/stable    canonical✓       -gtk-common-themes               0.1-81-g442e511             1535   latest/stable/…  canonical✓       -hunspell-dictionaries-1-7-2004  1.7-20.04+pkg-6fd6          2      latest/stable    brlin            -opera                           108.0.5067.40               298    latest/stable    opera-software✓  -skype                           8.115.0.215                 336    latest/stable    skype✓           -snap-store                      41.3-77-g7dc86c8            1113   latest/stable/…  canonical✓       -snapd                           2.61.2                      21184  latest/stable    canonical✓       snapdsnapd-desktop-integration       0.9                         83     latest/stable/…  canonical✓       -valgrind                        3.22.0                      160    latest/stable    ralight          classicwhatsdesk                       0.3.8                       28     latest/stable    zerkc            -wine-platform-6-stable          6.0.4                       19     latest/stable    mmtrt            -wine-platform-runtime           v1.0                        363    latest/stable    mmtrt            -zoom-client                     5.17.10.3512                225    latest/stable    ogra             -flatpak listName          Application ID       Version            Branch      InstallationGoogle        com.google.Chrome    123.0.6312.58-1    stable      systemBOINC Manager edu.berkeley.BOINC   7.22.1             stable      systemFreedesktop … …reedesktop.Platform 22.08.23           22.08       systemFreedesktop … …reedesktop.Platform 23.08.14           23.08       systemMesa          …Platform.GL.default 24.0.3             22.08       systemMesa (Extra)  …Platform.GL.default 24.0.3             22.08-extra systemMesa          …Platform.GL.default 24.0.3             23.08       systemMesa (Extra)  …Platform.GL.default 24.0.3             23.08-extra systemopenh264      …p.Platform.openh264 2.1.0              2.0         systemopenh264      …p.Platform.openh264 2.1.0              2.2.0       systemopenh264      …p.Platform.openh264 2.1.0              2.3.0       systemThe GIMP team org.gimp.GIMP        2.10.36            stable      systemGNOME Applic… org.gnome.Platform                      44          systemGnuCash       org.gnucash.GnuCash  5.5+ (Flathub 5.5) stable      systemYaru Gtk The… ….gtk.Gtk3theme.Yaru                    3.22        systemThe Document… …eoffice.LibreOffice 24.2.1.2           stable      systemzoom.us       us.zoom.Zoom         5.17.5.2543        stable      systemdpkg -l | grep -i ' chrom'ii  chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra               1:85.0.4183.83-0ubuntu2.22.04.1         amd64        Transitional package - chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra -> chroium-ffmpeg snap

    On Saturday, March 23, 2024 at 07:35:50 AM EDT, Manfred Hampl <email address hidden> wrote:

 Your question #709640 on Ubuntu changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/709640

    Status: Open => Needs information

Manfred Hampl requested more information:
For diagnostic purposes, what output do you receive for the following
commands (to be executed in a terminal window):

uname -a
lsb_release -crid
snap list
flatpak list
dpkg -l | grep -i ' chrom'

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Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said :
#3

I am sorry to say that, but your answer is unreadable.
It seem that your mail system breaks all formatting.

Please paste all output directly into your question document https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/709640

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David G. Pickett (dgpickett) said :
#4

(
uname -a
lsb_release -crid
snap list
flatpak list
dpkg -l | grep -i ' chrom'
)
Linux dgp-p6803w 6.5.0-26-generic #26~22.04.1-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Tue Mar 12 10:22:43 UTC 2 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 22.04.4 LTS
Release: 22.04
Codename: jammy
Name Version Rev Tracking Publisher Notes
acrordrdc 2021.007.20091 62 latest/stable mmtrt -
bare 1.0 5 latest/stable canonical✓ base
canonical-livepatch 10.8.1 264 latest/stable canonical✓ -
chromium-ffmpeg 0.1 37 latest/stable canonical✓ -
core 16-2.61.2 16928 latest/stable canonical✓ core
core18 20231027 2812 latest/stable canonical✓ base
core20 20240111 2182 latest/stable canonical✓ base
core22 20240111 1122 latest/stable canonical✓ base
curl 8.1.2 1754 latest/stable woutervb -
firefox 124.0.1-1 4033 latest/stable/… mozilla✓ -
gnome-3-28-1804 3.28.0-19-g98f9e67.98f9e67 198 latest/stable canonical✓ -
gnome-3-38-2004 0+git.efb213a 143 latest/stable/… canonical✓ -
gnome-42-2204 0+git.510a601 172 latest/stable canonical✓ -
gtk-common-themes 0.1-81-g442e511 1535 latest/stable/… canonical✓ -
hunspell-dictionaries-1-7-2004 1.7-20.04+pkg-6fd6 2 latest/stable brlin -
opera 108.0.5067.40 298 latest/stable opera-software✓ -
skype 8.115.0.215 336 latest/stable skype✓ -
snap-store 41.3-77-g7dc86c8 1113 latest/stable/… canonical✓ -
snapd 2.61.2 21184 latest/stable canonical✓ snapd
snapd-desktop-integration 0.9 83 latest/stable/… canonical✓ -
valgrind 3.22.0 160 latest/stable ralight classic
whatsdesk 0.3.8 28 latest/stable zerkc -
wine-platform-6-stable 6.0.4 19 latest/stable mmtrt -
wine-platform-runtime v1.0 363 latest/stable mmtrt -
zoom-client 5.17.10.3512 225 latest/stable ogra -
Name Application ID Version Branch Installation
Google com.google.Chrome 123.0.6312.58-1 stable system
BOINC Manager edu.berkeley.BOINC 7.22.1 stable system
Freedesktop … …reedesktop.Platform 22.08.23 22.08 system
Freedesktop … …reedesktop.Platform 23.08.14 23.08 system
Mesa …Platform.GL.default 24.0.3 22.08 system
Mesa (Extra) …Platform.GL.default 24.0.3 22.08-extra system
Mesa …Platform.GL.default 24.0.3 23.08 system
Mesa (Extra) …Platform.GL.default 24.0.3 23.08-extra system
openh264 …p.Platform.openh264 2.1.0 2.0 system
openh264 …p.Platform.openh264 2.1.0 2.2.0 system
openh264 …p.Platform.openh264 2.1.0 2.3.0 system
The GIMP team org.gimp.GIMP 2.10.36 stable system
GNOME Applic… org.gnome.Platform 44 system
GnuCash org.gnucash.GnuCash 5.5+ (Flathub 5.5) stable system
Yaru Gtk The… ….gtk.Gtk3theme.Yaru 3.22 system
The Document… …eoffice.LibreOffice 24.2.1.2 stable system
zoom.us us.zoom.Zoom 5.17.5.2543 stable system
ii chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra 1:85.0.4183.83-0ubuntu2.22.04.1 amd64 Transitional package - chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra -> chroium-ffmpeg snap

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David G. Pickett (dgpickett) said :
#5

echo "uname -a
lsb_release -crid
snap list
flatpak list
dpkg -l | grep -i ' chrom'" | while read c; do echo "$c" ==============================; bash -c "$c"; echo; done
uname -a ==============================
Linux dgp-p6803w 6.5.0-26-generic #26~22.04.1-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Tue Mar 12 10:22:43 UTC 2 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

lsb_release -crid ==============================
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description: Ubuntu 22.04.4 LTS
Release: 22.04
Codename: jammy

snap list ==============================
Name Version Rev Tracking Publisher Notes
acrordrdc 2021.007.20091 62 latest/stable mmtrt -
bare 1.0 5 latest/stable canonical✓ base
canonical-livepatch 10.8.1 264 latest/stable canonical✓ -
chromium-ffmpeg 0.1 37 latest/stable canonical✓ -
core 16-2.61.2 16928 latest/stable canonical✓ core
core18 20231027 2812 latest/stable canonical✓ base
core20 20240111 2182 latest/stable canonical✓ base
core22 20240111 1122 latest/stable canonical✓ base
curl 8.1.2 1754 latest/stable woutervb -
firefox 124.0.1-1 4033 latest/stable/… mozilla✓ -
gnome-3-28-1804 3.28.0-19-g98f9e67.98f9e67 198 latest/stable canonical✓ -
gnome-3-38-2004 0+git.efb213a 143 latest/stable/… canonical✓ -
gnome-42-2204 0+git.510a601 172 latest/stable canonical✓ -
gtk-common-themes 0.1-81-g442e511 1535 latest/stable/… canonical✓ -
hunspell-dictionaries-1-7-2004 1.7-20.04+pkg-6fd6 2 latest/stable brlin -
opera 108.0.5067.40 298 latest/stable opera-software✓ -
skype 8.115.0.215 336 latest/stable skype✓ -
snap-store 41.3-77-g7dc86c8 1113 latest/stable/… canonical✓ -
snapd 2.61.2 21184 latest/stable canonical✓ snapd
snapd-desktop-integration 0.9 83 latest/stable/… canonical✓ -
valgrind 3.22.0 160 latest/stable ralight classic
whatsdesk 0.3.8 28 latest/stable zerkc -
wine-platform-6-stable 6.0.4 19 latest/stable mmtrt -
wine-platform-runtime v1.0 363 latest/stable mmtrt -
zoom-client 5.17.10.3512 225 latest/stable ogra -

flatpak list ==============================
Name Application ID Version Branch Installation
Google com.google.Chrome 123.0.6312.58-1 stable system
BOINC Manager edu.berkeley.BOINC 7.22.1 stable system
Freedesktop … …reedesktop.Platform 22.08.23 22.08 system
Freedesktop … …reedesktop.Platform 23.08.14 23.08 system
Mesa …Platform.GL.default 24.0.3 22.08 system
Mesa (Extra) …Platform.GL.default 24.0.3 22.08-extra system
Mesa …Platform.GL.default 24.0.3 23.08 system
Mesa (Extra) …Platform.GL.default 24.0.3 23.08-extra system
openh264 …p.Platform.openh264 2.1.0 2.0 system
openh264 …p.Platform.openh264 2.1.0 2.2.0 system
openh264 …p.Platform.openh264 2.1.0 2.3.0 system
The GIMP team org.gimp.GIMP 2.10.36 stable system
GNOME Applic… org.gnome.Platform 44 system
GnuCash org.gnucash.GnuCash 5.5+ (Flathub 5.5) stable system
Yaru Gtk The… ….gtk.Gtk3theme.Yaru 3.22 system
The Document… …eoffice.LibreOffice 24.2.1.2 stable system
zoom.us us.zoom.Zoom 5.17.5.2543 stable system

dpkg -l | grep -i ' chrom' ==============================
ii chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra 1:85.0.4183.83-0ubuntu2.22.04.1 amd64 Transitional package - chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra -> chromium-ffmpeg snap

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David G. Pickett (dgpickett) said (last edit ):
#6

Only 1 chrome on my system I can find (flatpak/chrome seems to like cp over ln):

$ find / -name chrome -type f -ls 2>/dev/null
   918785 4 -rwxr-xr-x 2 root root 479 Jul 3 2023 /var/lib/flatpak/app/com.google.Chrome/x86_64/stable/3fdf8b05be2d7e831804a3af90c7fd47cf148512248933574e07da4015d9c437/files/bin/chrome
  1311693 231940 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 237499736 Mar 18 16:15 /var/lib/flatpak/app/com.google.Chrome/x86_64/stable/3fdf8b05be2d7e831804a3af90c7fd47cf148512248933574e07da4015d9c437/files/extra/chrome
  1572898 231940 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 237499736 Mar 18 16:15 /opt/google/chrome/chrome
$

$ find / -name chrome -type f 2>/dev/null|while read f; do echo $f; cmp /opt/google/chrome/chrome $f; echo; done
/var/lib/flatpak/app/com.google.Chrome/x86_64/stable/3fdf8b05be2d7e831804a3af90c7fd47cf148512248933574e07da4015d9c437/files/bin/chrome
/opt/google/chrome/chrome /var/lib/flatpak/app/com.google.Chrome/x86_64/stable/3fdf8b05be2d7e831804a3af90c7fd47cf148512248933574e07da4015d9c437/files/bin/chrome differ: byte 1, line 1

/var/lib/flatpak/app/com.google.Chrome/x86_64/stable/3fdf8b05be2d7e831804a3af90c7fd47cf148512248933574e07da4015d9c437/files/extra/chrome

/opt/google/chrome/chrome

$

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Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said :
#7

That's by far better!

There is only the "chrome" flatpak that can only be upgraded by flatpak.

There is a snap named "chromium-ffmpeg"
See the descriptiom:
"This package provides a chromium-ffmpeg content interface that third-party browser snaps can connect to to get access to a host of proprietary codecs for web content that they might not be allowed to redistribute themselves."
This package was originally developed for the chromium snap, but can nowadays also be used by other snap packages. (Latest version is from Feb 2, 2024)

And there is the "dummy" deb package chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra, which cares for installing the "chromium-ffmpeg" snap package. (Last update was a year ago).

I do not see anything that is "chrome"-related, that would be updated by snap or by the Ubuntu software updater.

Another possible step for diagnosing that case is digging into the package management logs on your system. They list all packages that were updated. (e.g. the parts of /var/log/apt/history.log and /var/log/dpkg.log that cover the periond in question).

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David G. Pickett (dgpickett) said :
#8

/var/log/apt/history.log chrome entries:

Start-Date: 2024-03-01 12:50:34
Commandline: aptdaemon role='role-commit-packages' sender=':1.1421'
Upgrade: google-chrome-stable:amd64 (122.0.6261.69-1, 122.0.6261.94-1), microsoft-edge-stable:amd64 (122.0.2365.52-1, 122.0.2365.63-1)
End-Date: 2024-03-01 12:51:11

Start-Date: 2024-03-06 09:17:12
Commandline: aptdaemon role='role-commit-packages' sender=':1.475'
Upgrade: google-chrome-stable:amd64 (122.0.6261.94-1, 122.0.6261.111-1)
End-Date: 2024-03-06 09:17:37

Start-Date: 2024-03-15 12:08:31
Commandline: aptdaemon role='role-commit-packages' sender=':1.775'
Install: ubuntu-pro-client:amd64 (31.2~22.04, automatic)
Upgrade: google-chrome-stable:amd64 (122.0.6261.111-1, 122.0.6261.128-1), apache2-data:amd64 (2.4.52-1ubuntu4.7, 2.4.52-1ubuntu4.8), apache2-bin:amd64 (2.4.52-1ubuntu4.7, 2.4.52-1ubuntu4.8), ubuntu-pro-client-l10n:amd64 (30~22.04, 31.2~22.04), apache2-utils:amd64 (2.4.52-1ubuntu4.7, 2.4.52-1ubuntu4.8), apache2:amd64 (2.4.52-1ubuntu4.7, 2.4.52-1ubuntu4.8), ubuntu-advantage-tools:amd64 (30~22.04, 31.2~22.04), microsoft-edge-stable:amd64 (122.0.2365.80-1, 122.0.2365.92-1)
End-Date: 2024-03-15 12:09:30

Start-Date: 2024-03-22 13:28:12
Commandline: aptdaemon role='role-commit-packages' sender=':1.759'
Upgrade: google-chrome-stable:amd64 (122.0.6261.128-1, 123.0.6312.58-1)
End-Date: 2024-03-22 13:28:27

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David G. Pickett (dgpickett) said :
#9

dgp@dgp-p6803w:~
$ fgrep chrom /var/log/dpkg.log
2024-03-01 12:50:35 upgrade google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.69-1 122.0.6261.94-1
2024-03-01 12:50:35 status half-configured google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.69-1
2024-03-01 12:50:35 status unpacked google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.69-1
2024-03-01 12:50:35 status half-installed google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.69-1
2024-03-01 12:50:48 status unpacked google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.94-1
2024-03-01 12:51:10 configure google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.94-1 <none>
2024-03-01 12:51:10 status unpacked google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.94-1
2024-03-01 12:51:10 status half-configured google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.94-1
2024-03-01 12:51:10 status installed google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.94-1
2024-03-06 09:17:13 upgrade google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.94-1 122.0.6261.111-1
2024-03-06 09:17:13 status half-configured google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.94-1
2024-03-06 09:17:13 status unpacked google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.94-1
2024-03-06 09:17:13 status half-installed google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.94-1
2024-03-06 09:17:35 status unpacked google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.111-1
2024-03-06 09:17:36 configure google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.111-1 <none>
2024-03-06 09:17:36 status unpacked google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.111-1
2024-03-06 09:17:36 status half-configured google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.111-1
2024-03-06 09:17:37 status installed google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.111-1
2024-03-15 12:08:34 upgrade google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.111-1 122.0.6261.128-1
2024-03-15 12:08:34 status half-configured google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.111-1
2024-03-15 12:08:34 status unpacked google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.111-1
2024-03-15 12:08:34 status half-installed google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.111-1
2024-03-15 12:08:50 status unpacked google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.128-1
2024-03-15 12:09:15 configure google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.128-1 <none>
2024-03-15 12:09:15 status unpacked google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.128-1
2024-03-15 12:09:15 status half-configured google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.128-1
2024-03-15 12:09:16 status installed google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.128-1
2024-03-22 13:28:13 upgrade google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.128-1 123.0.6312.58-1
2024-03-22 13:28:13 status half-configured google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.128-1
2024-03-22 13:28:13 status unpacked google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.128-1
2024-03-22 13:28:13 status half-installed google-chrome-stable:amd64 122.0.6261.128-1
2024-03-22 13:28:25 status unpacked google-chrome-stable:amd64 123.0.6312.58-1
2024-03-22 13:28:25 configure google-chrome-stable:amd64 123.0.6312.58-1 <none>
2024-03-22 13:28:25 status unpacked google-chrome-stable:amd64 123.0.6312.58-1
2024-03-22 13:28:25 status half-configured google-chrome-stable:amd64 123.0.6312.58-1
2024-03-22 13:28:26 status installed google-chrome-stable:amd64 123.0.6312.58-1
dgp@dgp-p6803w:~
$

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David G. Pickett (dgpickett) said :
#10

flatpak updated Chrome first, and "Software Updater" second.

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Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said :
#11

What output do you receive for the command

apt policy google-chrome-stable

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David G. Pickett (dgpickett) said :
#12

 dgp@dgp-p6803w:~$ apt policy google-chrome-stablegoogle-chrome-stable:  Installed: 123.0.6312.58-1  Candidate: 123.0.6312.58-1  Version table: *** 123.0.6312.58-1 500        500 https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable/main amd64 Packages        100 /var/lib/dpkg/statusdgp@dgp-p6803w:~$

    On Saturday, March 23, 2024 at 04:45:58 PM EDT, Manfred Hampl <email address hidden> wrote:

 Your question #709640 on Ubuntu changed:
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/709640

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What output do you receive for the command

apt policy google-chrome-stable

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David G. Pickett (dgpickett) said :
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dgp@dgp-p6803w:~
$ apt policy google-chrome-stable
google-chrome-stable:
  Installed: 123.0.6312.58-1
  Candidate: 123.0.6312.58-1
  Version table:
 *** 123.0.6312.58-1 500
        500 https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
dgp@dgp-p6803w:~
$

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Manfred Hampl (m-hampl) said :
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Here it is!

In addition to the flatpak version, you have also installed the deb version, directly from the google.com pages.

This is not Ubuntu-provided, and because of different naming ("google" in front), was not listed in most of my previous commands.

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